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Sep 19, 2022Liked by Quoth the Raven

There a Seinfeld episode where Costanza reasons that if all natural instinct are wrong, that he should just do the opposite. It was a great episode.

That is currently how I view life whenever the propaganda box say something.

I just do the complete opposite, and usually I and up on the right side

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I am calling it the "Decade of George". This will be my view on things for the next 10yrs. Whatever they say...I will do the opposite.

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It's like "inverse Cramer" but for current events

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Sep 19, 2022·edited Sep 19, 2022Liked by Quoth the Raven
Sep 19, 2022Liked by Quoth the Raven

Speechless. Even living through it, to see it all laid out like this, I have just one question: What. The. Fuck?

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Sep 19, 2022·edited Sep 19, 2022Liked by Quoth the Raven

They're cut from the same cloth as the liars and propagandists of the early 20th century, except now we can archive and index them in literally a few seconds.

Eventually we'll catch them before they pull the same stunts as their predecessors (I hope and pray anyway)

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Sep 19, 2022Liked by Quoth the Raven

Brilliant. Thank you.

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One for the Time Capsule - The aliens will never believe this!

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They already have it. It's sent at 186,000 miles a second. They're taking over/under bets on when we will destroy ourselves.

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Chris, I don't doubt that most of what you have presented are good examples of misinformation/disinformation. However if we're going to be objective about this stuff, where are the Fox & OAN etc clips and pundit commentary? If you don't present that info. then all your doing is reinforcing the same misinformation/disinformation bubbles - only show left of center examples, but nothing from right of center pundits/experts. There is no value in doing that as the majority of people who follow you are just hearing what they want to hear. I could run a thousand examples of the same thing from FOX/OAN etc and we'd all be scratching our heads going WTF! My point is why don't you do your clients a service and show how bad it is on both sides, because that is the root of the problem that is F...ing up democracies around the world.

Finally you have none of the misinformation/disinformation on election rigging/stop the steal & the J6 insurrection - let's look at the lies perppetrated by Maria Bartiromo, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, The Five etc every day. That is clearly the biggest threat to all our freedoms & liberty!

All I'm asking is if we are cynical about this stuff(which we are) then give us both sides. Your clients are smart & pretty well informed but many are locked inside the misinformation/disinformation bubble. The only way we break this vicious cycle is to start fighting back with balanced commentary/journalism, something that social media has helped destroy! Surely you get where I'm coming from?

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Feel free to generate the list of right-wing misinformation. Would be nice for you to document, so we have clarity on your point.

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I find it useful to try to see both sides of an issue. Or at least consider what others view as their primary concerns. Do you have some parallel examples?

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Right wingers are banning/censoring books (that's what fascism likes to do, to prevent anything that is different from their ideology): https://pen.org/report/banned-usa-growing-movement-to-censor-books-in-schools/

This is America, we decide what we read or do not read and that freedom should not be decided for us or our kids (exception is PG but again, the parent decides that for the kids not government or schools)

Follow https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP and https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln they call out their own party's descent into extremism and lies.

Remember the claim "Obama is going to take away your guns"? Didn't happen and Obama was in power for 8 years, that was utter fear mongering and straight lies: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/obama-hasnt-called-for-all-out-gun-confiscation/

Read how many Republican candidates won't outright say Election fraud is a lie and founded on zero evidence and truths, instead they push the conspiracy theory. Trump continues to lie and says he didn't lose the election. Yet many Republicans were on the same ballot as Trump and those that won (or lost), those Republicans didn't say the election was a fraud or lie. And it also doesn't pass common sense and bullshit meter, if Trump lost and it was rigged, then what about all the republicans on the same ballot who won...? It doesn't make any sense.

Kari Lake saying journalists are criminals should be locked up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9POnx_qmePQ&t=850s

Just false claims, no evidence, and no court case to proof her claims of "criminality", America doesn't call for imprisoning journalists, this is fascist.

She's also called to lock up AZ Secretary of State: https://twitter.com/jeremyduda/status/1444484819312787459?s=20&t=gLuox0JVj6NIFb9HPBR3yg

Many many more examples but if this is what the far right Republican party is, I hope they die with this kind of extremism, straight lies, and unpatriotic bs spouting out of their mouths.

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"Right wingers are banning/censoring books (that's what fascism likes to do, to prevent anything that is different from their ideology): https://pen.org/report/banned-usa-growing-movement-to-censor-books-in-schools/"

"This is America, we decide what we read or do not read and that freedom should not be decided for us or our kids (exception is PG but again, the parent decides that for the kids not government or schools)"

the entire point of "banning" these books in school libraries is to give the parent/guardian the authority to introduce these complex, mature and confusing subjects to their kids, not the school board, local drag queen ensemble, or the fake giant boob tranny in shop class.

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So you’re ok for PUBLIC libraries and schools to censor and ban books? This is an assault on freedom of speech and expression.

Banning To Kill a Mockingbird? Seriously? What is wrong with that book?

“In total, for the nine-month period represented, the Index lists 1,586 instances of individual books being banned, affecting 1,145 unique book titles. This encompasses different types of bans, including removals of books from school libraries, prohibitions in classrooms, or both, as well as books banned from circulation during investigations resulting from challenges from parents, educators, administrators, board members, or responses to laws passed by legislatures. These numbers represent a count of cases either reported directly to PEN America and/or covered in the media; there may be other cases of bans that have not been reported and are thus not included in this count.”

https://pen.org/banned-in-the-usa/

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adult oriented content should be kept in adult sections. that was my only point.

it can be a dicey line to draw for some titles, but its not a ban. good day.

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The bible has adult material, so that should be put in the adult section is what you are saying?

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Exactly, this is another pointless self congratulatory post from Chris. If we did this on the right wing side of the media aisle, it’d take an encyclopedia to cover all the stuff they get wrong, purposely mislead, or straight up lie about. Notice how he doesn’t do that though? How often did you hear him cover any of Trumps batshit crazy statements? Never, and you won’t because it would hurt his bottom line, He knows which side his bread is buttered on.

This substack blog is quickly becoming Alex Jones light. It’s the “give me money so I can make you feel enraged or possessing of insider knowledge” method of commentating. Mix in a pinch of anti-semitic racism here, a heavy dash of conspiracy there, and viola! Another money machine is created to suck cash from the right wing rubes. He’ll be hawking useless vitamins and penis pills in no time. Enjoy y’all!

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This whole thread...lmao

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why?

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Right wingers fringe gas light so much and never call themselves out. They don’t realize how their lack of understanding facts and truth is a real threat to our republic (election denial, fear mongering, and so on). It’s really sad and their partisanship is so blind it’s just crazy.

Just look at how they are attacking the FBI and men in blue and so on. I don’t listen and like left wing media either but right wing media is way way more dangerous to our republic. Example is Tucker Carlson saying to support Russia over Ukraine, etc. Truly despicable stuff.

One I’ll never forget is attacking our own military saying they are “woke” and care more about pronouns and then showing a “badass” Russia military commercial that was all masculine and “strong”, then saying from that propaganda of a commercial Russia trains and has a stronger more manly military than our weak ass “woke” military. I grew up on military bases around the world, couldn’t be farther than the truth as the US military is a volunteer force and the most trained and motivated in the world.

Now look at Russia, loser of a “2nd rate” military power with unmotivated and horrible officer leadership hierarchy. No concept of mission command and strong NCO leadership, etc.

But fringe right wingers will just attack the USA first and hate hate and fear monger all day long while celebrating Russia and other propaganda points they lie and spout to their followers.

Shows the longer you live in an information bubble the easier it is to mold that plastic human brain. This is why we swear an oath to the constitution and never to any man/woman.

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Pointing out that the FBI has some questionable or corrupt practices is NOT the same as being anti-law enforcement.

Pointing out that DOD is focused on woke topics is NOT the same as supporting Russia.

Questioning lack of transparency on vote counting, the last minute changes to election law, and major reduction in screening of mail-in votes does NOT equal election denier.

There are shades of grey, and pushing for binary positions on topics cheapens the debate/discussion.

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50+ court cases found no fraud, did you look at the bs “evidence” they submitted? None of the court cases, they argued against other Republican candidates ON THE SAME BALLOT winning. Like are you serious?

The problem is none of far right wingers read and educate for themselves they just eat up lies and talking points.

The “do your research” crowd gas lights themselves and jus eat up whatever propaganda and lies willingly down their throats.

That is why the far right is a threat to democracy, because they don’t question things and just believe lies and conspiracies that divide and will destroy this country.

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You are probably correct, although others don't argue the semantics the way you do. They just conflate all of it and make it sound like the "other side" are destroying this beautiful country. But the crux is that news pundits take these issues and make them into "holier than thou" issues even when there is demonstrable evidence to the contrary.

Fox will be forced to provide discovery in the defamation case against it from the voting machine companies, which will show they damn well knew all the disinformation they were spreading were lies, and it was known to them in advance and yet they still perpetrated this BS. Thats what needs to stop...lies being used repeatedly to make money and divide people against each other.

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Jeff, that is the point I'm trying to get Chris to recognize. We would all be better served if rather than venting that "our side is better than your side" , we collectively agree that both sides have real issues. I agree the 'right' seem more self righteous and down right scary with their aggressive fear mongering all the time. Let's understand it is Fox & Mainstream medias job to make money first and foremost and the way you do that in spades is by creatinga grievance narrative all the time and exaggerating and lying about the truth. I like you and most of the subscribers here are sick of this! I'm leaving the U.S. partly because of this and because I'm very concerned about the future of democracy here. People are being slowwalked into a much worse future if these zealots on both sides get elected. In the past they were the fringe, now they are the mainstream.

I only pray that the voters finally wake up to what is staring at them and push these freaks back out to the edge of the universe where they belong!

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Agree, if this continues in the US, it shows we're a country in decline and wealthy people can choose where we live and work. Other countries will seem much better given our lapsing old infrastructure and so on. The far right wingers want a completely destruction of the administrative state, I've been following and studying them for awhile now, they are the biggest threat to America more than Russia or China are.

The US, like all the great nation states before us, started to fall and decline from within. It's never outside threats that destroy great nations, it's always inside threats and it usually are far right wingers. The progressive ones are the ones who continue improving society instead of fear mongering and controlling others based on insecurities and fears.

America is the world's greatest country because we were progressive, we moved society and our values forward.

“In my early years the psychology of the 1960s U.S. was aspirational and inspirational—to achieve great and noble goals. It was like nothing I have seen since. One of my earliest memories was of John F. Kennedy, an intelligent, charismatic man who painted vivid pictures of changing the world for the better—exploring outer space, achieving equal rights, and eliminating poverty. He and his ideas had a major effect on my thinking. The United States was then at its peak relative to the rest of the world, accounting for 40 percent of its economy compared to about 20 percent today; the dollar was the world’s currency; and the U.S. was the dominant military power. Being “liberal” meant being committed to moving forward in a fast and fair way, while being “conservative” meant being stuck in old and unfair ways—at least that’s how it seemed to me and to most of the people around me. As we saw it, the U.S. was rich, progressive, well managed, and on a mission to improve quickly at everything. I might have been naive but I wasn’t alone.”

― Ray Dalio, Principles: Life and Work

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Ray Dalio's latest book 'The Changing World Order' also provides a great analysis from an economic history perspective. I've felt for many years that the U.S. is the modern Roman Empire...at it's peak infallible and indestructible. The problem is, like Rome, greed and corruption end up destroying the empire. The crooked U.S. Senators just like the crooked Roman Senators are partly responsible for the destruction of the U.S. empire. It's not the administrative state that's the problem(although it has built in inefficiencies and corruption), it's the broken electoral system and the totally ineffective Electoral College which are giving us entrenched and corrupted politicians. I feel like I don't live in the "United" States anymore but rather 50 different countries each with it's own political agenda. Obviously these 50 countries within a country have their skewed political allegiances resulting in effectively two countries(Republican vs Democrat). Whatever way you dice and slice it, the prognosois is bad. There are too many people with their heads in the sand, unwilling to recognize how bad things are here now.

You are so correct, that it is the internal radical forces that are a greater risk to this country than Russia or China. I mean the fact that we have people who support QAnon(including Trump) being elected, tells you how bad it is! You would think the Republican Party leadership would come out unequivocally and denounce this BS....but it's crickets! I suppose in the end the people get what they deserve.

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Your side mutilates children and endorses pedos . . .

So no, I dont give a flying fuck what you have to say about anything.

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So aggressive....I rest my case. No intelligent discourse, just abuse and hate.In so few words you show your soul! Russian bot maybe? Keep trying to divide people while we try and egage both sides.

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^ you've been radicalized and what do you mean by "your side"? lol, brainwashed people like you are literally threats to our republic, what else do you believe? Please elaborate some more?

I suggest you "do your own research" and look into the right wingers claims and using dangerous, false 'pedophilia' claims to attack "the other side". Do you know how many Republicans have been arrested for pedophilia? How many in the church? It's not a "one side" thing, but go ahead and keep getting gas lighted.

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Yea when voters no longer choose their congressmen and senators, but "elected" officials choose them via gerrymandering, then we won't do what's best for the people--the voters. So a lot of people need to wake up. Gerrymandering is a problem for both sides but I'd argue based on the data, the right do it way worst (just look at Texas LOL).

But since we're divided into our own bubbles of left and right, we don't understand the real threat is the consolidation of power and increasing inequality but those in power love to make you believe "it's the other side" when both parties have been responsible for inflation getting this far (and Republican administrations, based on the data, are more fiscally irresponsible increasing our debt and deficit while cutting our revenue to benefit the wealthy).

Did boomers and older forget that America was most prosperous after the Great Depression? FDR was voted in because Republican right wing governance and lack of financial oversight (basically not doing their jobs) led to the population losing faith in their party? Do people realize how much higher taxes were back then and how much labor and wage productivity the US saw during those times?

Why do you think, FDR, a democrat, was voted president for 3 terms? Because he got shit done. Look at "both sides" and see who is legislating and who is governing and you'll see the real truth. Republicans cannot govern, they just blame the other side and fear monger yet doing nothing about the real issues facing Americans

I'm still waiting on "infrastructure week" and the "great healthcare plan" that was better than Obamacare LMAO. But hey, so many ppl keep getting gaslighted while real problems for Americans aren't solved.

I'm not a leftist, I'm just more see the far right wingers for their who they are and allowing them to govern our country would be disastrous, they would take our country backwards and back in time (Roe vs Wade was just a dress rehearsal)

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"I'm no leftist"

> proceeds to repeat every leftist trope

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Progressives are not controlling others based on insecurities and fears? Are you sure? Have you heard about the enthusiasm "progressives" have for vaccine mandates?

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LMAO, no one is forcing you to take the COVID vaccine, you have the freedom decide not to, it's your body and your decision. However, private businesses and employers can decide to mandate it as a condition of employment if they want. If you don't agree with that, then quit or don't be a patron of that business. It's that simple.

This whole fear mongering about "progressives" or whoever trying to control the population with vaccine mandates is such a joke of a conspiracy.

And guess what's happening, we are going back in time as measles to polio is coming back because people don't believe in the science of vaccines LOL.

Man if a more dangerous virus or strain of COVID was spreading like SARS, that would be so devastating to the anti-vaccine crowds. Goodluck with that if we get another pandemic where that virus is as deadly as SARS was. I'll continue to trust the scientists and doctors with degrees and hundreds of hundreds of years of science than people who digest propaganda and watch YouTubers who are really entertainers grifting their followers and not true journalism/news.

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Health authorities have lied about every aspect of the pandemic. Did you not read the collected quotes at the top of this article, or do you just come here to gaslight and bloviate? Go back to your own blog if you have nothing to contribute except more establishment lies. STFU and go away.

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Oh, Jeffrey. Private businesses in New York City are forced by the city to mandate jabs for employees. Have a great day bud.

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The Ukraine war, hands down. Everything about it is not only fake, but extremely ruinous to all parties involved.

Everything the US/"NATO" has been doing in Ukraine - from the bioweapons labs, to the fomenting of Nazi culture, to giving them the missiles they use to kill innocent people in villages - is far darker than just electing President "10% for the Big Guy". Absolutely horrifying.

Nobody's cheering Russia on because they particularly 'love' Russia. It's the horror and revulsion of the things we do in that horrid place to provoke a manufactured enemy - and it is, in every sense of the word, a manufactured enemy. "We" need them to keep all of the grifts going. Things should have *never* gotten to the point that they are right now.

There was an article posted somewhere a few days ago about how the lack of electricity was going to close down a 100 year old business in England, forcing England to purchase whatever the product was from...Russia. I wish I had bookmarked it or something because of how absolutely unreal it was.

The Mir system is going to take over for global payments. It's been in the making for a long time. Things are so criminally stupid right now that the only reason that makes any sense for things to be so upside down is because it's being done on purpose. And to what end? What is the goal of all of this controlled collapse?

The biggest threat to this Republic isn't a bunch of country bumpkins walking around Congress. It's the repeal of the Smith/Mundt Act. All media outlets are now wholly controlled by the government and the minute you point out the glaring lies, you're deemed a 'threat'. You're a Nazi for not wanting your tax dollars to go towards arming literal Ukraine Nazis. You're a racist if you don't support the millions of people walking through our borders. You're a homophobe if you don't think kids should be castrated or sexualized.

It's all so incredibly tiresome.

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Inflation is transitory

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That's what she said, as he struggled to put on his......

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Lol

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We don't want Inflation ( even though it's the only way to reduce the debt)

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Sep 19, 2022·edited Sep 19, 2022

Subprime is contained

"I don't think we'll see another financial crisis in our lifetime" maybe Janet was just trying to be self deprecating about her age?? And to be fair we haven't seen one like '08 yet, but the wall cloud is visible on the horizon and headed this way

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Bloomberg's latest opinion piece: "Ready to work until you die? America needs you"

clown world

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This past Sunday (18-Sep): “Well, first of all, let’s put this in perspective,” Biden said. “Inflation rate month to month was just — just an inch, hardly at all.”

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The CCP United Front Work Department tends to fund left-wing organisations across the world, and also exert significant influence over organisations such as The World Bank and WHO.

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Sep 25, 2022·edited Sep 25, 2022

And yet it makes absolutely no difference to shit libs. In fact, they double down. This isn't about scoring points in a college debate. It's about power and winning no matter what. Cuz we semi fascists are all little Hitlers.

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99% of the hospitalized are unvaccinated.

CNN rolls the tape on Fox News hosts' anti-vaccine rhetoric

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEJufOyAbis

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We have to pass the bill to know whats inside it..

....it will be contained to the sub prime market.

We can never go broke...we have a thing called the printing press

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Your newsletter has gone from decent to bad to horrible. I’m didn’t sign up to this newsletter to hear MAGA propaganda.

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Yup, he’ll keep pandering to extremist far right because they pay him. That’s why all the far right YouTubers and grifters just pander to it

Hunter Biden , once Biden is out of the spotlight and no longer in office, Hunter will be a nothingburger, Republicans won’t pursue this story at all and just drop it (because their isn’t a case, it’s just a propaganda story). It was only politically convenient hit piece with very questionable sources and methods. I’m not saying Hunter is a great guy at all but he’s a private citizen and so far nothing criminal otherwise the FBI or someone would’ve found something to indict him.

Hillary the same, they investigated her to death. Republicans had full control of the govt. went nowhere and even Trump admin said she was found to commit no crimes. She was not indicted.

Look at the number of indictments and criminality of Republican admins vs Democrat admins, it’s astonishing from Nixon to Trump. It’s increased the amount of indictments and charges of crimes. The Republican Party is getting more extremism and radical. It’s nuts. I no longer recognize the party I grew up believing in (limited govt that stays out of my life, low taxes, etc.)

MAGA is really a threat to democracy, they are so partisan and biased that truth and rule of law, the foundations of this country, literally doesn’t matter to them.

It’s all about winning (can’t accept losing at all), power, conspiracies, sucking their followers for money, banning books, and demonizing and f-ing up the the “others” or enemies—claims of criminality with zero evidence, calls to imprison journalists, assaulting freedom of speech and expression, cherry picking words and datapoints to push propaganda and lies.

Basically Fascism.

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Always nice to take a trip down memory lane so we don't forget. Linking as usual @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/

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When the Ukraine war started there was an Army general on Twitter who used video game footage to talk about how the Ukes were really sticking it to the Russians

Real American leadership right there

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Just focusing on one side is why America is divided (yes Trump was right on about Europe's dependence on Russia oil and so on, he was right on lots of things but he's the biggest non-truth teller of all lol). I suggest to readers to read both viewpoints to get a balanced perspective. For example, follow and read AARON RUPAR's substack and Twitter, just read and tell me what you see. I follow both left and right wingers as well as centrists so you don't get sucked into your own propaganda bubble of mis/dis-information and pure bias partisanship.

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The medical quotes have nothing to do with political party, they're just bold faced lies and regardless of whether one is democrat, republican or independent, one should be incensed and hold these people accountable.

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The EU vote against Hungary is another great example

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I say we start an annual media recognition award for outstanding reporting along the lines of the Darwin awards. We could name it the Baghdad Bob ( remember him?) Memorial award for outstanding journalistic reporting.

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Sep 19, 2022·edited Sep 19, 2022

I was searching for a direct quote and date for the fallacious claim that "the economy will come roaring back" circa 2020. However, it turns out that (at least) Mnuchin, Pence and Trump (et al) repeated various permutations of the line beginning around March 18, 2020 and proceeding throughout the year into the fall. It has later been repeated by Democrats under Biden.

First Mnuchin and then Mike Pence repeated the claim on the same day and assured the people of America that once this pandemic is over that the economy will come “roaring back.”

In early July 2020, Trump was at the podium basically proclaim victory saying that the June jobs numbers prove that the "economy is roaring back" and that it was "spectacular news".

In late August 2020, John Peterson (owner of Schuette Metals in Rothchild, Wisconsin) spoke at the RNC to say that "Trump is rebuilding and our economy is roaring back again".

Also in late August 2020, Mnuchin told a House subcommittee that the Economy Is Recovering but "More Work" Is Needed to Alleviate Pain. He was quoted as saying “Whether it is $1 trillion or $1.5 trillion, again, let’s not get caught on a number."

That was however not good enough. The Democrats wanted $3.4 TRILLION. Mnuchin said that lawmakers should not worry about the “top line” amount. When asked about Trump's claim (actually Mnuchin's own as well), that the "economy is roaring back", he said “Relative to shutting off the entire economy and relative to people thinking we would have 40 million unemployed, we are doing great."

In mid May 2021, Governor Newsom said about his $100 Billion California Comeback Plan, "This is a jumpstart for our local economies, and it’s how we’ll bring California roaring back.”

In July 2021, when Newsom signed the bill he said “Harnessing the largest surplus in state history, we’re making transformative investments across the board that will help bring all our communities roaring back from the pandemic – and pay dividends for generations to come".

Also in July 2021, Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) said that Biden's leadership is the reason "America's economy is roaring back".

In September 2021, Governor Jared Polis said that Colorado's high vaccination rate is part of why their economy is roaring back.

There's dozens of pundits, national and local news outlets, etc., that have repeated the claim including the word "roaring" during this time. They are too numerous and not worth quoting apart from pointing out that such application being used for/against whomever their agenda sought to support or speak against respectively.

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"I'll send you the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act an laugh in your face." Ben Hunt

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That's an interesting quote. I'm not familiar with that. What is the context in which it was said?

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You'd have to to to Epsilon Theory where they spend a lot of time on narratives, why are we reading this now, Missionaries, the nudging oligarchy, fiat news and more. I think he mentioned in a comment he made on the attacks by the GOP on Biden's spending, to remind us in a not so subtle way that the law referred to blew a trillion dollar hole in the budget every year.

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They're all Sociopaths, from Kelley Loefler and other members of the select committee that had just been briefed on Covid in February 2020, ran from the hearing to dump millions in stocks, to the Fed members who front run stock trades like the former Dallas head Robert Kaplan Goldman alumnus, who resigned (not in disgrace). https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-mandarin-class/

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