One thing that we did not walk away with after the covid hoax was the idea that any "emergency" must have measurable parameters that are well defined and that the exit condition, along with an expiration date, must be provided at the outset.
Clearly allowing the government to declare open-ended and hardly-defined "emergencies" is nothing other than allowing unlimited authoritarian tyranny.
The other thing that we didn't walk away with, although many great minds strenuously argued the point, that it is precisely during "emergencies" that basic human rights must remain in place.
I mean, what is the limit? Can the government declare that you have no right to even life because some imagined "emergency" is so dire? How far away are they from that when they can dictate every single thing about how you live your life and institute martial law essentially?
Let's talk about how CO2 is 0.04% of the atmosphere and what *precisely* is the end goal? Is it 0.03%? Surely it cannot be 0%. What is the number and what specific measures are available to make the change that they say we need?
Also the bullshit about climate *change* is just another hand-wavy unmeasurable pseudo condition that clearly has no end. Change? Change how? Never change? Less change? Measured how? Over what period?
Exactly right. Nobody was punished for Covid so of course they are moving on to the next “emergency”. Any attempts to debate or protest will lead to accusations of being a “denier” and thus it will be deemed acceptable to ban them from public society.
I don't understand the US going to net zero - if China, India and other countries do not follow the same. The damage is being done to the environment. Can anyone explain to me how that benefits the environment?
If Hillary or any president attempt their "emergency" powers again - I think this will be the next civil war. Or a number of states will join Texas to leave the union.
Ultimately the way our society has progressed the past 8-10 years - I think a National divorce is the only solution. There is so much hate in this country and there is no way we ever come back to the middle.
We will need to split into 2 or 3 different countries and allow people to chose the citizenship based on beliefs / government structure going forward. Which may be a better thing to get the ball started now before it's too late. We had a good 250 year run as a union - but sometimes it is better for the kids if the adults split up so they stop fighting.
The climate scam is the single most obvious scam in human history. I cannot believe people continue to fall for this. In my lifetime alone, the "problem" reported by "The Science" has been: a second ice age freezing everything; acid rain killing everything; a hole in the ozone layer allowing us all to fry to death; global warming burning everything up; and now just a vague "shit is changing...be afraid." It's ridiculous. It hasn't even been the same story!
On top of that not one - not even one - of the major predictions these people have made has come true. The Azores are still there and larger than ever. the Outer Banks are still there. The polar ice cap is there and the same size as ever. These people can't accurately predict the weather later today, and yet there are morons who believe they can predict it 50 years from now.
On top of that, the people pushing this nonsense clearly don't believe it themselves. They fly around in private jets, ride around in limos, buy gigantic mansions for two people, and live right on the oceanfronts that they claim are going to be wiped out in the next few years. Remember masks and lockdowns, how they pushed that on the people while skipping it themselves. Yeah, exactly like that.
On top of that, warming is good for life. Freezing is bad. CO2 is good for the atmosphere and for plant life. It is also not the cause of warming because it cannot retain heat energy the way the so-called experts say it can. Greenland was once green and England was once hot and semi-arid like northern CA. Life flourished then. We have a LONG way to go before we are even close to that.
On top of that, "green" energy is not green. It is more damaging to the environment in almost countless ways. And we don't have nearly enough of the metals we'd need. We'd need more copper in the next 30 years than human beings have mined for the entirety of our existence on this planet. Guess how we get that copper? Mining! With fossil fuels. Transport with fossil fuels.
On top of that, the supposed "green" machines run on freaking fossil fuels. The electricity they use is generated by burning fossil fuels. They are manufactured, distributed and serviced by using fossil fuels.
Awesome comment. You said everything that I've thought.
I've also noted something that doesn't get mentioned very often -- they keep adjusting the "old" temperatures downward in an "extrapolated" method to compensate for the changes in precision of measurements. Then, they can say that the temps have risen, and dramatically. It's always down, not up. That alone reveals the gig.
But let's assume there is some warming. So what? Ask them, "what is the ideal temperature of the earth?" See what answer you get.
The “Climate Emergency” is a contrivance of the ruling elites, crafted in Davos a long ago, today we see these would be global oligarchs ham handed effort to subjugate the masses. It is a failed attempt to capitalize on their “investment” in education.
Their crowning achievement; the woke mind virus infects the least productive in Western society, Citizens of the rest of the world are too busy trying to survive, they gaze upon the legions of privileged noisy Western snowflakes with disdain and contempt.
Meanwhile we see these sub human Davos trolls furiously pulling strings, it only makes things worse, we the people, especially the alpha males among us reject what’s on offer. Our collective response is a hard no, we seem to be heading for a time when all good men will be asked once again to come to the party.
Masculinity and iron resolve will be the traits on demand, diversity, equity and inclusion will be the mantra of yesterday, in retrospect a pathetic slogan crafted for the consumption of virus addled minds. This period in human history will be studied and categorized along side other anomalies such as the rise of nazism.
The whole climate change idea is a sham!! There is no climate emergency. There is no global warming!! This was the first hoax perpetrated on the public. During Covid doctors lied. During this Scientists lied. The earths temperature should be expressed scientifically in degrees Kelvin. For those that do not know, degrees Kelvin start at absolute zero (-273 dgrees C) and increases one for one with degrees Centigrade. If the average temerature of the world is 59 degrees F, then it is equal to 15 degrees C. 15 degrees C is equal to 288 degrees Kelvin!! What does a one to two degree increase (if that where to happen) really mean when the actual starting temperature is 288 degrees? What a joke. The Mass media first lied about this in the 70's and 80's does anyone know that following leading scientists resigned in protest of how the scientific community addressed and lied about global warming:
1). Prominent Physicist Resigns from American Physical ...
University of California, Santa Barbara emeritus physics professor Harold Lewis has resigned from the American Physical Society, stating in his resignation letter that the Society has "gamed" the global warming issue "to suppress serious conversation about the merits of the climate change claims." Lewis, who chaired the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) Technology Panel and the DOD ...
2). Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Resigns Over Global Warming
Jan 8, 2015. The global warming theory left him out in the cold. Dr. Ivar Giaever, a former professor with Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and the 1973 winner of the Nobel Prize in physics, abruptly...
3). The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (UN IPCC) is misleading humanity about climate change and sea levels, a leading expert on sea levels who served on the UN IPCC told The New American. In fact, it is more likely that sea levels will decline, not rise, explained Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner, the retired head of the paleogeophysics and geodynamics at Stockholm University.
For those that do not know:
1). Realize that science is not a democracy. Mass agreement does not indicate a theory is correct. One correct vote invalidates millions of erroneous ones. For example - the earth being the center of our universe.
2). A theory stays as being ONLY a theory until proven correct. This has never happened in the case of climate change.
3). Gore, Kerry, etal and their wild, hysterical, projections have been repeatedly been proven wrong: e.g. Cities and nations flooded by 2014; all Glaciers gone by 2020; and countless others.
4). Actual unaltered or processed data (sound familiar? death counts) does not show a world wide temperature increase.
0r you can follow the absolutely brilliant scientific thinking displayed by a 15 year old child who was brainwashed into reciting a mantra that has been pounded into her. Doesn't anyone ask; how did a 15 year old kid get to address the UN and have her message across the entire world. Maybe, just maybe, there is an much larger and powerful force directing all of this. We are being force fed BS and soon we will be force fed bugs if the WEF and Gates and his ilk have their way.
As to replacing fossil fuels - It is not going to happen. Not without reverting to a life style that emulates the 1600 to 1700's with a world population that is in that range as well. Give up steel, plastics, non organic clothing, aircraft, ships as we know them, global trade, railroads, metal alloys and countless foods that are grown using fertilizers derived from fossil fuels.
We need >15 times the amount of current wind and solar power for one day of operation. What happens when we have a week or more of rain and cloudy weather? Where does that power come from then? Batteries?? A 10 day supply would require > 150 times the current amount of wind and solar power and if we needed one more day or hour, it would be too bad. The amount of thermal and electrical energy to be stored to supply such an amount of electrical energy would be unbelievable. If a fire ever started around sites required to store such an amount of energy it would be catastrophic.
It is time to stop this total insanity. Laugh hystercally at the fools that have bought into this fraud. However recognize that those that propound this are sentencing you and your families to DEATH!
I had to pause after reading Elizabeth Kolbert’s suggestions for changing society to be more green. Her list is a perfect example of ideas casually tossed around from someone who has never made a meaningful contribution to society. Let’s just change the airline industry and the way we make fertilizer. Well geez whiz darling, please tell us how you propose to replace air travel and modify the Haber Bosch process.
Until all those who demand action in a climate emergency are willing to step up and lead the way by changing their own actions, i.e. stop eating beef, stop driving, stop flying etc., they will continue to prove themselves inveterate liars and shysters.
Not one should ever be given a microphone until they prove they are so concerned they are changing their ways
We have journeyed down the road of Governance by Emergency Edict. My letter to President Trump asked for cancellation of President Obama's Emergency Preparedness Executive Order concerning many aspects of our society but especially Agriculture Confiscations. I list the first paragraphs of a long listing of authoritarian confiscations:
24 January 2017
To: President Donald J. Trump
Subj: Repeal Obama Executive Order of 16 March 2012
I discussed the National Defense Preparedness Act with many of my neighbors when the Executive Order was signed in March 2012, commenting that farm equipment, food, fertilizer and all water resources could be confiscated by the government in peacetime, during heightened mobilization and during war time. Is there any other time that exists? See Section 801, Section 301. Draconian!
On 16 March 2012 President Obama authorized the government to take just about whatever it needs in the name of national defense. It is an Executive Order appropriately called “National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP).” This allowed members of Obama’s Cabinet to take resources such as livestock, water, fuel, farm equipment, vehicles, planes, boats, food and just about anything the government thinks it needs for “defense preparedness.” This Executive Order is a setup for peacetime martial law.
I bring to your attention because of the fact that the US Dept of Agriculture continually demands (annually) a detailed listing of all of my farm products. Every year I tell them to buzz off. They keep trying and trying to get the information and I refuse to comply. In the meantime I have learned that the Dept of Agriculture is placing a GPS set of coordinates on all farms and gardens in the United States. Certainly sounds like a worthwhile and productive use of tax dollars to me, and fits right in with the unused reporting data they gather.
One thing that we did not walk away with after the covid hoax was the idea that any "emergency" must have measurable parameters that are well defined and that the exit condition, along with an expiration date, must be provided at the outset.
Clearly allowing the government to declare open-ended and hardly-defined "emergencies" is nothing other than allowing unlimited authoritarian tyranny.
The other thing that we didn't walk away with, although many great minds strenuously argued the point, that it is precisely during "emergencies" that basic human rights must remain in place.
I mean, what is the limit? Can the government declare that you have no right to even life because some imagined "emergency" is so dire? How far away are they from that when they can dictate every single thing about how you live your life and institute martial law essentially?
Let's talk about how CO2 is 0.04% of the atmosphere and what *precisely* is the end goal? Is it 0.03%? Surely it cannot be 0%. What is the number and what specific measures are available to make the change that they say we need?
Also the bullshit about climate *change* is just another hand-wavy unmeasurable pseudo condition that clearly has no end. Change? Change how? Never change? Less change? Measured how? Over what period?
The entire thing is a crock of shit.
Indeed it is. And I’m sure China and India are declaring climate emergencies also
Exactly right. Nobody was punished for Covid so of course they are moving on to the next “emergency”. Any attempts to debate or protest will lead to accusations of being a “denier” and thus it will be deemed acceptable to ban them from public society.
Exactly, what’s the end game???
Control.
Yep
I don't understand the US going to net zero - if China, India and other countries do not follow the same. The damage is being done to the environment. Can anyone explain to me how that benefits the environment?
If Hillary or any president attempt their "emergency" powers again - I think this will be the next civil war. Or a number of states will join Texas to leave the union.
Ultimately the way our society has progressed the past 8-10 years - I think a National divorce is the only solution. There is so much hate in this country and there is no way we ever come back to the middle.
We will need to split into 2 or 3 different countries and allow people to chose the citizenship based on beliefs / government structure going forward. Which may be a better thing to get the ball started now before it's too late. We had a good 250 year run as a union - but sometimes it is better for the kids if the adults split up so they stop fighting.
It's about those with power maintaining control.
And reducing the population. You are the carbon they want to reduce.
The climate scam is the single most obvious scam in human history. I cannot believe people continue to fall for this. In my lifetime alone, the "problem" reported by "The Science" has been: a second ice age freezing everything; acid rain killing everything; a hole in the ozone layer allowing us all to fry to death; global warming burning everything up; and now just a vague "shit is changing...be afraid." It's ridiculous. It hasn't even been the same story!
On top of that not one - not even one - of the major predictions these people have made has come true. The Azores are still there and larger than ever. the Outer Banks are still there. The polar ice cap is there and the same size as ever. These people can't accurately predict the weather later today, and yet there are morons who believe they can predict it 50 years from now.
On top of that, the people pushing this nonsense clearly don't believe it themselves. They fly around in private jets, ride around in limos, buy gigantic mansions for two people, and live right on the oceanfronts that they claim are going to be wiped out in the next few years. Remember masks and lockdowns, how they pushed that on the people while skipping it themselves. Yeah, exactly like that.
On top of that, warming is good for life. Freezing is bad. CO2 is good for the atmosphere and for plant life. It is also not the cause of warming because it cannot retain heat energy the way the so-called experts say it can. Greenland was once green and England was once hot and semi-arid like northern CA. Life flourished then. We have a LONG way to go before we are even close to that.
On top of that, "green" energy is not green. It is more damaging to the environment in almost countless ways. And we don't have nearly enough of the metals we'd need. We'd need more copper in the next 30 years than human beings have mined for the entirety of our existence on this planet. Guess how we get that copper? Mining! With fossil fuels. Transport with fossil fuels.
On top of that, the supposed "green" machines run on freaking fossil fuels. The electricity they use is generated by burning fossil fuels. They are manufactured, distributed and serviced by using fossil fuels.
This climate idiocy is just too much for me, lol.
Awesome comment. You said everything that I've thought.
I've also noted something that doesn't get mentioned very often -- they keep adjusting the "old" temperatures downward in an "extrapolated" method to compensate for the changes in precision of measurements. Then, they can say that the temps have risen, and dramatically. It's always down, not up. That alone reveals the gig.
But let's assume there is some warming. So what? Ask them, "what is the ideal temperature of the earth?" See what answer you get.
The “Climate Emergency” is a contrivance of the ruling elites, crafted in Davos a long ago, today we see these would be global oligarchs ham handed effort to subjugate the masses. It is a failed attempt to capitalize on their “investment” in education.
Their crowning achievement; the woke mind virus infects the least productive in Western society, Citizens of the rest of the world are too busy trying to survive, they gaze upon the legions of privileged noisy Western snowflakes with disdain and contempt.
Meanwhile we see these sub human Davos trolls furiously pulling strings, it only makes things worse, we the people, especially the alpha males among us reject what’s on offer. Our collective response is a hard no, we seem to be heading for a time when all good men will be asked once again to come to the party.
Masculinity and iron resolve will be the traits on demand, diversity, equity and inclusion will be the mantra of yesterday, in retrospect a pathetic slogan crafted for the consumption of virus addled minds. This period in human history will be studied and categorized along side other anomalies such as the rise of nazism.
The end game is total control of every citizen’s life.
Seconded.
The whole climate change idea is a sham!! There is no climate emergency. There is no global warming!! This was the first hoax perpetrated on the public. During Covid doctors lied. During this Scientists lied. The earths temperature should be expressed scientifically in degrees Kelvin. For those that do not know, degrees Kelvin start at absolute zero (-273 dgrees C) and increases one for one with degrees Centigrade. If the average temerature of the world is 59 degrees F, then it is equal to 15 degrees C. 15 degrees C is equal to 288 degrees Kelvin!! What does a one to two degree increase (if that where to happen) really mean when the actual starting temperature is 288 degrees? What a joke. The Mass media first lied about this in the 70's and 80's does anyone know that following leading scientists resigned in protest of how the scientific community addressed and lied about global warming:
1). Prominent Physicist Resigns from American Physical ...
University of California, Santa Barbara emeritus physics professor Harold Lewis has resigned from the American Physical Society, stating in his resignation letter that the Society has "gamed" the global warming issue "to suppress serious conversation about the merits of the climate change claims." Lewis, who chaired the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) Technology Panel and the DOD ...
2). Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Resigns Over Global Warming
Jan 8, 2015. The global warming theory left him out in the cold. Dr. Ivar Giaever, a former professor with Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and the 1973 winner of the Nobel Prize in physics, abruptly...
3). The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (UN IPCC) is misleading humanity about climate change and sea levels, a leading expert on sea levels who served on the UN IPCC told The New American. In fact, it is more likely that sea levels will decline, not rise, explained Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner, the retired head of the paleogeophysics and geodynamics at Stockholm University.
For those that do not know:
1). Realize that science is not a democracy. Mass agreement does not indicate a theory is correct. One correct vote invalidates millions of erroneous ones. For example - the earth being the center of our universe.
2). A theory stays as being ONLY a theory until proven correct. This has never happened in the case of climate change.
3). Gore, Kerry, etal and their wild, hysterical, projections have been repeatedly been proven wrong: e.g. Cities and nations flooded by 2014; all Glaciers gone by 2020; and countless others.
4). Actual unaltered or processed data (sound familiar? death counts) does not show a world wide temperature increase.
0r you can follow the absolutely brilliant scientific thinking displayed by a 15 year old child who was brainwashed into reciting a mantra that has been pounded into her. Doesn't anyone ask; how did a 15 year old kid get to address the UN and have her message across the entire world. Maybe, just maybe, there is an much larger and powerful force directing all of this. We are being force fed BS and soon we will be force fed bugs if the WEF and Gates and his ilk have their way.
As to replacing fossil fuels - It is not going to happen. Not without reverting to a life style that emulates the 1600 to 1700's with a world population that is in that range as well. Give up steel, plastics, non organic clothing, aircraft, ships as we know them, global trade, railroads, metal alloys and countless foods that are grown using fertilizers derived from fossil fuels.
We need >15 times the amount of current wind and solar power for one day of operation. What happens when we have a week or more of rain and cloudy weather? Where does that power come from then? Batteries?? A 10 day supply would require > 150 times the current amount of wind and solar power and if we needed one more day or hour, it would be too bad. The amount of thermal and electrical energy to be stored to supply such an amount of electrical energy would be unbelievable. If a fire ever started around sites required to store such an amount of energy it would be catastrophic.
It is time to stop this total insanity. Laugh hystercally at the fools that have bought into this fraud. However recognize that those that propound this are sentencing you and your families to DEATH!
So climate change advocates are nothing more than fascists masquerading as environmentalists? Shocking.
I had to pause after reading Elizabeth Kolbert’s suggestions for changing society to be more green. Her list is a perfect example of ideas casually tossed around from someone who has never made a meaningful contribution to society. Let’s just change the airline industry and the way we make fertilizer. Well geez whiz darling, please tell us how you propose to replace air travel and modify the Haber Bosch process.
Their idea is to "modify" it by eliminating it.
They couldn't care less if a solution presents itself or not.
Until all those who demand action in a climate emergency are willing to step up and lead the way by changing their own actions, i.e. stop eating beef, stop driving, stop flying etc., they will continue to prove themselves inveterate liars and shysters.
Not one should ever be given a microphone until they prove they are so concerned they are changing their ways
False Premise, expose that and the rest is moot.
How many words and reader's time did you just waste ignoring a False Premise?
Good God.
We have journeyed down the road of Governance by Emergency Edict. My letter to President Trump asked for cancellation of President Obama's Emergency Preparedness Executive Order concerning many aspects of our society but especially Agriculture Confiscations. I list the first paragraphs of a long listing of authoritarian confiscations:
24 January 2017
To: President Donald J. Trump
Subj: Repeal Obama Executive Order of 16 March 2012
I discussed the National Defense Preparedness Act with many of my neighbors when the Executive Order was signed in March 2012, commenting that farm equipment, food, fertilizer and all water resources could be confiscated by the government in peacetime, during heightened mobilization and during war time. Is there any other time that exists? See Section 801, Section 301. Draconian!
On 16 March 2012 President Obama authorized the government to take just about whatever it needs in the name of national defense. It is an Executive Order appropriately called “National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP).” This allowed members of Obama’s Cabinet to take resources such as livestock, water, fuel, farm equipment, vehicles, planes, boats, food and just about anything the government thinks it needs for “defense preparedness.” This Executive Order is a setup for peacetime martial law.
I bring to your attention because of the fact that the US Dept of Agriculture continually demands (annually) a detailed listing of all of my farm products. Every year I tell them to buzz off. They keep trying and trying to get the information and I refuse to comply. In the meantime I have learned that the Dept of Agriculture is placing a GPS set of coordinates on all farms and gardens in the United States. Certainly sounds like a worthwhile and productive use of tax dollars to me, and fits right in with the unused reporting data they gather.