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Joe Rogan Will Interview Donald Trump
"At a certain point in time. Just like, it would be interesting to hear his perspective on a lot of things.”
You heard it here first: Donald Trump is going to wind up on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast before we get too much closer to election day next year.
It has to happen in my mind. Let me explain my reasoning.
Sometimes, pop-culture forces are simply too massive to avoid one another. We've seen it before in history: Floyd Mayweather had to fight Conor McGregor, Tom Brady had to bring Rob Gronkowski with him to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Jay Z had to marry Beyonce.
Such will be the case with Joe Rogan—host of the world's most popular podcast—and Donald Trump—the polarizing former president and hopeful once more for the nation's highest office.
In the past, Rogan has claimed that he's had opportunities to interview Donald Trump but has declined them all. Trump would undoubtedly relish the opportunity to boast about himself in front of Rogan's millions of listeners, many of whom support him.
Back in June 2023, when asked about the idea, Rogan said to Lex Fridman:
"I have had the opportunity to have him on my show, more than once, and I have said no every time. I don't want to help him, I'm not interested in helping him."
But then, knowing that it was only Rogan’s side of the equation that was preventing it from making it happen, Valuetainment’s Patrick Bet-David asked him again in August 2023:
"When are you having Trump on?"
This time, Rogan replied:
"I don't know. Maybe. At a certain point in time. Just like, it would be interesting to hear his perspective on a lot of things.”
"I would like to know, what is it like when you actually get into office? I would like to know things like, what is it like versus perception? What is it actually like when you get in that building? Like what are you greeted with? When do you know that people are f***ing with you? When do you know that the intelligence agencies are lying to you, like when you decided to fire Comey? What was the thought? How much did you know? Like what's the machine like? What is the deep state really like? Really like?”
"We have all these, you know, smoky room perceptions like from the Bill Hicks joke, where they show you the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before," he added. "You know, what is the machine that runs his country? Because it's very clear that it's not as simple as elected representatives that are doing the will of the people
This alone represents a notable shift in Rogan’s attitude toward making it happen.
But there are other forces at play: namely, that Rogan, despite his occasional missteps, seems to have a genuine interest in fairness and transparency. He has recently expressed on his podcast that he believes the indictments against Trump are a political weaponization of the Department of Justice and are unfair. Rogan might see himself as a way to bring balance back to the situation.
While many on the left may despise both Trump and Rogan, I don't doubt Rogan's ability to throw a pitch straight down the middle when it comes to Trump. Rogan's past disapproval of Trump and endorsement of candidates like Bernie Sanders suggest that he would likely be able to conduct a fair interview with Trump, including criticizing the former president in a way that most probably wouldn't assume.
One would have to assume that Spotify would want to bless the deal, as they have a significant economic interest in The Joe Rogan Experience. There would likely be countless ways for Rogan to monetize an interview so significant that it might actually break the internet. After all, Trump's recent interview with Tucker Carlson on the night of the most recent GOP debate garnered tens of millions of views almost instantaneously. I believe that an interview with Joe Rogan would blow these numbers away.
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The benefits for Trump would not only be exposure for his presidential campaign but also access to a younger audience he might not have otherwise connected with. However, this is a double-edged sword; if he is challenged in a way that he normally wouldn't be and makes a fool of himself, he may do himself more harm than good. But for Trump, the risk-reward ratio seems asymmetrically positive. Such an interview would help him regain the momentum he has recently lost due to the indictments and bad press.
There doesn't seem to be much risk for Rogan in taking on such an interview, either. The entire Ultimate Fighting Championship crowd is already largely supportive of Donald Trump, and Rogan doesn't stand to lose many listeners. In fact, there's an opportunity for Rogan to gain traction with listeners he wouldn't normally have if he truly challenges Trump in ways other anchors have not. Most interviews that Trump has with anchors like Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson go smoothly, and the anchors end up singing his praises.
Rogan has the opportunity to widen his audience by challenging Trump on topics like his claims of a rigged election and the events of January 6.
Furthermore, one issue that no one on the right seems to be challenging Trump on is vaccines. If there's a single topic that serves as an elephant in the room among Republicans and Donald Trump, it's the COVID-19 vaccines. Many people on the right, myself included, remain skeptical about the benefits and necessity of these vaccines. Joe Rogan has been an outspoken critic of vaccines on his podcast, inviting guests like Bret Weinstein and Dr. Pierre Kory, who routinely question the accepted wisdom on vaccinations. Rogan has the opportunity to put some of these questions to Donald Trump, who touts COVID-19 vaccinations as part of his successful tenure in office.
Additionally, Rogan has the chance to challenge Trump on issues like monetary policy. Rogan has hosted guests such as Peter Schiff, who clearly understands the profound negatives of the current Keynesian monetary policy that has led us into the inflation crisis we are currently grappling with. Trump oversaw similar monetary policy and continues to advocate for firing Jerome Powell and lowering rates as part of his economic strategy for 2024. This would be an excellent point for Rogan to challenge, as such economic policy, while seemingly beneficial, would likely exacerbate the inflation problem.
All told, both Rogan and Trump are larger-than-life figures. Like two giant planets orbiting one another in our solar system, their size and mass will continue to pull them toward each other until they eventually collide.
To me, this meeting seems inevitable over a long enough timeline. There's sufficient positive motivation for both parties to make it happen before the 2024 election, which is why I predict the interview will likely air before the end of the first quarter of 2024.
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