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Oct 17, 2022Liked by Quoth the Raven

You lost me at bitcoin going to $2 million in the next five years. The government would never allow it.

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Doesn’t matter what they want. They’ll all be dead in a few decades.

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Yep, remember what Trudeau did when people tried to send bitcoin to the trucker protesters?

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Don't send BTC to truckers. It's more like in case of emergency break glass for me, not sending in bits (sorry) and pieces.

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You know everything huh. how about the govt created it....

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what

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lol not allow it? oh okay.

which specific government are you talking about? All 195 countries of the world? At one time?

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Agreed. I am not really a fan of bitcoin but even if it becomes successful in its adoption, the CBs will never allow a competitor to their digital currency.

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Nice interview, I always enjoy Larry's hatred of the system. Chris, you made me laugh while doing cardio when you asked Larry how he values bitcoin. He starts out by saying, "well there are only 21MM to be...." Then you jump in with "yea yea yea, we all know that." One point Larry makes about sending money internationally and it costing 20-30% is just wrong. My wife's family lives in a S. American country and we routinely send money via Western Union. The cost is a few bucks on several hundred dollars. We send in USD and they receive in USD to avoid WU taking a big slug on FX differences. When my wife's mom gets the money she converts to a local currency at a bank for a small difference from the actual spot. In short, the entire process might cost 1 or 2%.

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Oct 17, 2022·edited Oct 17, 2022

No way it cost's 2% only, and still one could send for a hundredth of a penny with crypto.

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Yes way. My wife and I send money frequently so I’m pretty comfortable with the transaction costs. I have zero interest in bitcoin and even less interest in trying to explain the digital revolution to my 70 year old mother in law.

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That is great because it is not meant for the boomers to understand....

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As long as bond yields are less than the rate of inflation, you lose money every year - avoid. As long as pension funds go for leverage to get promised/expected yields, there is always a risk that the situation goes down the toilet - see the UK. As long as Governments continue to print more money, eventually no one accepts it other than themselves - see Argentina. Due to demographics and physical health deterioration in many countries, year-after-year GDP declines may be the new normal. Will the Governments cut their expenditures, or will they say: "You will not walk alone" (Chancellor Scholz - SPD)? Couple that with the Greenies totalitarian utopia of pushing the undependables, misnamed as renewables, can we expect a de-industrialization in countries such as Germany? BTC can't be subsidized or manipulated to increase its supply.

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fool; btc is going to 6k in the coming 4-5 months!

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Larry has actually made me more bearish on Bitcoin. Out of all of the macro commentators who happen to be long-term bullish on Bitcoin – and it hardly gets more bullish than predicting 100x within 5-6 years – he is one of my favorites (Lyn Alden's another). So, he is one of the Bitcoin bulls who I'm most predisposed to want to listen to. However, having followed him on Twitter for a couple years now, I've watched in disappointment as he has repeatedly blocked people who tried to ask him (what I consider to be) reasonable, skeptical questions about his Bitcoin thesis. Granted, some of them have been rude about it, but definitely not all. At best they usually get short, condescending blow-off replies about how they "don't get it," are spreading "FUD," etc., and/or trite talking points ("Yeah, I know. I know, Larry. EVERYBODY knows" -Chris at 54:36 in this week's interview), but quite a few have gotten straight up blocked, often immediately, sometimes with a "GFY" for good measure. That in and of itself kind of answers the question for me as to whether or not he can defend his thesis in depth against some of the better counter-arguments.

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Great episode! I have one doubt: at some point Larry commented that he either lost or was unable to profit from shorting Freddie Mae stocks (I think)...I am worried since I currently shorting PFSI, what could the SEC do to damage my trade, force me to close the position? I googled a bit about news on this back in 2008 but got the impression the SEC was "fighting" naked short selling only, could you clarify please?

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Watch the movie the Big Short or read the book, it explains why the shorts on Freddie and CDO's had trouble collecting. Basically all the banks that sold the shorts refused to reprice the underlying mortgage backed securities and CDO's because they are corrupt.

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Bitcoin going to $2 in the next 5 years

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The wisest words from this podcast is Lepard saying: "Stick to your knitting and be balanced."

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They will, have been into the space since 2016 and they do every single time as long as you are in good projects that have big time backing.

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you sure about that buddy: https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20161225/

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Yea I am positive dummy....

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