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Steve E's avatar

Why exactly would Epstein purchase large quantities of acid and have it shipped to the island to dissolve bodies (and leave a huge paper trail, he even purchased insurance for the shipment, lol) when he could simply dispose bodies in the sea?

The more logical explanation is that the acid was for exactly what the invoice says it was for - a chemical ingredient for the island's desalinization system.

Manul's avatar

Sulfuric acid doesn't dissolve bones very well. You need Hydrofluoric acid.

Laramie's avatar

Bravo! But most here probably haven't waded through Whitney Webb's two volumes that comprise "One Nation Under Blackmail."

I don't recommend it. It's the Red Pill, and it will change your outlook. You'll have a clearer perception of reality, and it's ugly.

For anyone who put the time in on those two volumes, none of this is surprising. Sure, some of the details are new, but the pattern is exactly what Webb sketched out. The problem is: You can't unsee it.

Soujourner's avatar

I read the first half of vol 1 and then donated both to my local resale bookstore. It was so dark, I couldn't continue without disturbing my inner peace.

I suspect, like all the financial crimes: the GFC, the bailouts of labor unions and banks and the sheer manipulation of the markets (look what the Soros-former hedge fund mgr our current Treas Secty just admitted doing to the Iranian rial on Feb 5), These people are ruthless and few will get justice in this mafia style system of 'capitalism'.

Moody Millennial's avatar

I don't expect any of the rich, powerful, and politically connected to face any consequences (rules for thee, but not me), despite everything that's come out in the emails: pedophilia, child sacrifice, cannibalism, and luciferian/satanic rituals. Trump and Israel were the two most mentioned names in the released documents.

Lisa Price's avatar

Depressing as it is, since it seems Bondi cut a deal not to prosecute anyone, do we think the next shiny object they will use to deflect from this is that the moon landings never happened? Where’s polymarket on this? I don’t place bets…

mm's avatar

look closer at the acid invoice. am i misreading it as 6 barrels? starts with “x 6”.

MoodyP's avatar

Indeed. The issue that has bothered me for years, can be framed as follows.

1. There were victims and based on all available evidence, some of them were young girls.

2. There were perpetrators, and based on all available evidence, some of them are individuals whose names most people would recognize.

3. The U.S. government, despite media and public pressure, has refused to allow any names (other than a sacrificial few) to be released.

4. The victims, despite media and public pressure, have refused to allow any names (other than a sacrificial few) to be released.

And therein lies the issue that I find more confusing than any other. Years of press conferences, interviews, court cases, and yet, not a single victim (at least to my knowledge) beyond the very few whose names we all know, has come forward with names.

Kunstler put it this way yesterday.

“One thing I’d like to know: why don’t the dozens of so-called “Epstein Survivors,” grown women supposedly raped and abused by celebrities years ago as children, name their abusers publicly? What’s stopping them as they grandstand around the country? Or is it just another grift?”

It seems to me, taking the most cynical view, is that most of the victims are faced with one of three choices.

1. Reveal everything they can recall and let the chips fall where they may.

2. Ignore the entire sordid saga, mostly because they have moved on in their lives.

3. Claim victim status, but don’t reveal the things the public wants more than anything, because doing so would destroy any opportunity to be financially compensated for staying silent.

The (former) lawyer in me leans to #3. Sadly. Which would be the ultimate irony.

Epstein gets rich (in part) by shaking down wealthy clients by threatening to reveal their activities with young girls.

Two decades later the same (not so young) girls get rich by shaking down the same wealthy clients by threatening to reveal their activities with you girls.

I have no idea if that is what is occurring. But I also don’t know that it’s not. A whole lot of mystery could be solved if a few dozen of the alleged ‘1000s’ of victims went public tomorrow with the names of the men involved.

They have had years to do so, so I’m not holding my breath. It’s just a very strange situation.

Cranky Frankie's avatar

The sulphuric acid was probably to acidify soil to grow things that don't like coral reef soil because it's alkaline. Shrubs like azaleas. for example. An island offers much less smelly and considerably easier ways to dispose of bodies.

Steve E's avatar

Read the invoice - it was for the island's water desalinization ("RO" = reverse osmosis) system.

Steve S's avatar

How anybody can seriously believe this conspiracy sh*t is beyond me. No video or photographic evidence of any wrongdoing despite hundreds of investigative hours and millions of documents, as if the FBI had a reason to hide anything. As if Wray was in on it, and Barr, and now Patel and Bongino, and Bondi. As if the SDNY and EDNY was involved in some conspiracy and coverup, from one administration to the next. As if Trump and Biden were both covering up, well, use your imagination. LMFAO.

mm2712's avatar

Thank you for your coverage of this horrific story. From the very beginning, I believed that he did not take his own life and that, if he is indeed dead, he was murdered by elements within our government. There is simply too much money involved for those responsible not to attempt to cover their tracks.

Unfortunately, those responsible will likely never face the punishment they deserve, while the children affected by these events must live with the trauma for the rest of their lives. You are correct in noting that this appears to be the final version of the story we will be given, and we may never know the true extent or depth of the cover-up, let alone everyone who was involved.

Stories like this continue to erode my faith in our government’s ability—or willingness—to do what is right for the people.

erik bjorseth's avatar

Funny thing is that people are shocked by the government over the Epstein files. Our government has been doing this for 100 years now.

Dulles sneaking Nazi's our during WW2 - playing both sides of the war. Then "Operation Paper Clip" taking the Nazi scientist back to the US.

Dulles trying to shoot missiles into Miami to give us an excuse to attack Cuba - JFK fires him over this and then Kennedy is killed and Dulles comes back.

MKULTRA mind control - Jack Ruby, Charles Manson, Ted Kacynski, Timothy McVeigh, Sirhan Sirahn

Over throwing the Iranian government in 1953 in Operation Ajax - then put in a secret police that would murder anyone that spoke against that regime.

It's too early in the morning for my brain to keep going.........but at least we teach our kids in school that we are the "Good Guys"

ClarabelleVonH's avatar

Excellent piece. El Gato Malo also had a good one on the same subject today.

Jeff Sammis's avatar

Love you Brother, but....

From Grok:

Yes, sulfuric acid is commonly used in reverse osmosis (RO) desalination systems, particularly in the pretreatment stage. In seawater reverse osmosis (SWRO) and many brackish water RO systems, sulfuric acid (H₂SO₄) is added to the feed water for these main reasons:

pH adjustment — It lowers the pH (typically to around 5.5–7.5, often ~6–7) to increase the solubility of calcium carbonate (CaCO₃) and prevent carbonate scaling on the RO membranes. Without pH reduction, scaling would quickly foul the membranes and reduce efficiency.

Scale control — It works alongside (or sometimes in place of) antiscalant chemicals to manage scaling risks from minerals like CaCO₃, and it can help control other issues (e.g., iron/manganese precipitation or enhanced coagulation in pretreatment).

Preference over alternatives — Sulfuric acid is often chosen over hydrochloric acid (HCl) because RO membranes reject sulfate ions better than chloride ions, avoiding adding extra chloride to the permeate or concentrate.

Deep breath in..... Out....

Allan Richard Wasem's avatar

Looks as if our intrepid sleuths have "solved" the "acid question". One question out of thousands in total.

What we now know is that there are so many layers of evil/conspiracy/cover-up to this overall story that the entire truth may never be fully known. What do DO ALREADY KNOW is that our own government has become unbelievably corrupt and malevolent over the last 30+ years and now constitutes a gigantic conspiracy against the American People generally and the Republic in particular.

Andrew P's avatar

I am wondering what Epstein was really up to. The sex trafficking seemed more like a hobby. He was involved in something really big, with lots of money. He apparently was interested in pandemics. He wasn't alive when the pandemic was released, but he might have had something to do with the players who did it.

Woke1's avatar

Because… 🧃 vult

Graeme Rodaughan's avatar

A fake body? A decoy body? Is Epstein still alive, held in witness protection, and waiting to turn state's evidence at Nuremberg 2.0?