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For those looking for a counterpoint, here's a great video of Peter Schiff predicting home equity evaporating 1-2 years before it happened. At the time, it was unthinkable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIFGfgKHrwU&list=PL5EC156464505485F&index=395

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Chris, I feel your pain because I share your pain. As do the others writing into your site. We are all here because we know that the market is broken, and has been since 2008. We are all expecting that the natural order will and must return, just as you outlined. Yet all of the very smart people on this site would have been better sticking all their money in a NASDAQ index fund after that crash.

The problem for all of us is we cannot live any other way. We all have friends and family who know less than nothing about the market who have done very well. We have to bite our tongue when they rave about how things are going, because we know much of it is nonsense. But can any of us go down that path of blissful ignorance? The answer is no. I have tried. It does not work.

We all collectively suffer from what I call the Curse of Awareness. We are the one eyed men and women in the land of blind. And the blind keep stumbling into piles of fools gold. But those afflicted with the Curse cannot unsee what they have seen, and cannot convince the blind that the world they live in is not real. It can be agonizing.

I work in finance and have had a fair amount of interaction with private credit providers. These firms pay quite well for those between 25 and 40 that are willing to work hard and crank through the opportunities the private credit guys are underwriting.

The people working at private credit shops are very smart. To think of them as fools would be a mistake. At the same time, I have seen up close the kinds of deals they underwrite. High risk with high pricing. Deals that banks cannot do.

All of these shops have had great runs up until the last nine months or so. And there are a ton of 35 year olds working in these shops who have benefitted greatly. They work hard-there are very few slackers and dummies in that world. They have also built lifestyles that come along with making $400-$700M per year.

Ask one of those people about the market. Do they feel any trepidation with the risk their firms are taking on? To a man, you will first get a blank stare as they try to compute the uncomputable. Then you will get a passionate, almost violent defense of all they have done in their careers in the last 10-15 years. They are so deep into it they simply cannot comprehend that they may live in a house of straw. And they will come back at you very hard if you even hint at their world being any less than rock solid.

Take that attitude all the way up to the partners that own these shops. Its like 1984 by Orwell. The higher up you go, the more strongly they profess to believe the lie. And when the market turns, you think they will go quietly? To the contrary, their mad belief will cause them to fight all the harder. Congressmen and senators will be called and threatened with doomsday. All the presidents buddies will be in the Oval Office delivering the same message. The bailout will be bigger than any that have come before it. And 90% of the country will cheer, even if they don’t know what they are cheering about.

And when that happens, we will have watch as up becomes down, knowing that the integrity that lies at the heart of our understanding is crapped on once again. Unfortunately for us, there is no other way. That is why awareness can become a curse.

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