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Chris DeMuth Jr's avatar

I don't even walk down the inner aisles. I just stay on the outer edge where I can get some protein and produce then leave.

Phil G's avatar

You're not even safe there. Read the label on the 'fresh' pork loin that is flavored. It's got some nasty chemicals in it. Same for the 'enhanced' chicken. Lunchmeat, bacon, sausages, deli salads not made in-house (most of them aren't)? Same thing. Rotisserie chicken? Full of chemicals. Grapes, tomatoes, strawberries? Chemical sprays that don't easily wash off and the fertilizer they're grown in is toxic, as well. Even the much of the seafood is treated with something. Farm shrimp? Pumped full of sodium tripolyphosphate as a 'preservative'.

Phil G's avatar

Yes, it does extend the life but it also soaks into the flesh and pumps it up. You can make a 51-60 count shrimp into a 31-40 count just by letting it soak for a few hours in the solution. Wild shrimp? Treated with sodium bi-sulfate to keep the shells from turning black. Tilapia from SE Asia countries? Same thing as farm shrimp. The food industry is riddled with toxic chemicals approved by the FDA and USDA.

Tankster's avatar

See also, The Secret Life of Groceries about the "Shrimping Industry" and other Fuckery in the business of getting "food" to us.

Phil Bak's avatar

You gotta be rich to eat clean. I think that's the unspoken tragedy of it all.

At least no one is starving anymore. I guess.

MoodyP's avatar

Pizza as a UPF? Blasphemy.

I am heading to the bakery to pick up some mega cinnamon rolls. Only on Fridays though.

Quoth the Raven's avatar

It's incredible the amount of pastry I ate in France...and I lost weight.

MoodyP's avatar

Ya. It’s illegal to put additives in baked goods in most of Europe. And in France in particular, like 90% of the baked goods consumed are locally produced. Plus using glyphosate on the wheat is outlawed. And the flour isn’t fortified, bleached, bromated, etc like most of the crap in the US.

Even using organic is not foolproof, because a lot of the organic stuff is grown in a field right next to the non organic stuff. And the drift from the crap they spray hits it anyway.

There are a few sources from which to buy French flour. But it’s really expensive. I bake a lot of bread and make a lot of pizza dough. I use King Arthur organic which I think is about the best one can do in the US without breaking the bank.

Steve Mudge's avatar

King Arthur was the best we figured. I built a wood fired pizza oven at our last house and we did a lot of testing, lol.

MoodyP's avatar

Ya. I’ve been using it for decades. They’ve actually been producing flour since the early 1800s. I’d love to have a wood fired pizza oven! But we live on our 35 ft sailboat so I don’t think that is in the cards. I do have a wonderful Force 10 propane oven and burners which allows me to turn out great stuff. Just in smaller quantities than a home oven. One loaf or one pizza at a time.

Alastair's avatar

They have a Bread Law / Baguette Law in France (I believe the only country in the world to have one).

The law states bread can only contain: wheat flour, water, salt, and yeast. No additives or preservatives are allowed.

https://miarecipes.com/what-is-the-baguette-law-in-france/

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The trilogy that runs this country is the Food industry, Big Pharma, and The Medical Industrial Complex.

They feed off each other and their money making product is a human that has been shaped not to question and stimulated to consume great tasting food with no nutrient values.

IMHO...the same people sit on all the board of directors for all these industries. Their goal is profit not health. Welcome to 21st century Amerika. Get sick and help the economy.

Phil G's avatar

I'm a 35 year veteran of the grocery industry and watched the devolution of food quality degrade from semi-healthy (relatively speaking, that is) to the crap that's common today. Last week I chanced to see a package of beef jerky at a friend's house, a brand that at one time was relatively preservative-free. Today? Not so much. The ingredient label read like a chemical formula for a WMD! Prominently noted on the front of the package was that it was non-GMO, as if that's the reason for consuming this gut-bomb. That's what food in American is like now. You have to read every label in order to keep from poisoning yourself! I, for one, am happy to see that these harmful processes are finally getting the attention they deserve.

Tankster's avatar

I'll never forget the cashier in a Jiffy Mart in Fernandina Beach asking if she could give our Golden Retriever a Slim Jim (say it in Old Florida drawl). I get it if you're in the suck wherever our government has decided to send you to kill people and break things. Our Golden? (and us) never!

TurkO's avatar

This Administration is walking back on promises, you can see what they are and for MAHA movement... FDA just approved mRNA Covid vaccines for kids again. There is no hope, the lobbyists win again. The individuals themselves need to do research, and protect themselves.

GAK's avatar

I saw that and was aghast, given RFK's prior stance. My gut instinct is that RFK too is appalled but is somehow being strong armed. I hope I'm right about this, because then there's hope that he will keep fighting for what is right.

On july 8 a lawsuit was announced against RFK over covid vaccines, claiming basically that his internal directive to change the vaccine schedule for infants and pregnant women overstepped "longstanding process". So there clearly is opposition (likely internal and external) to him making executive decisions.

Then 2 days later on July 10 the announcement comes out about the Moderna mRNA vaccine for infants.

This timing doesn't seem insignificant.

DLB's avatar

Your article concurs with a thought one of my friends and I often have. Both of us grew up in the 50's and 60's and both of us have a hard time recalling anyone in our classes that was fat.

We both wonder why that was, as both of us didn't grow up in poverty, mostly middle class families.

Aja's avatar

If you drink a sugared soda daily and give it up for water or unsweetened tea, you will lose 10 pounds in a year assuming no other change in your diet or activity. Seed oils are not only inflammatory but they disrupt testosterone in men. Think man tits…

David Bradshaw's avatar

It’s definitely an intentional design to keep everyone sick and on meds. Any intelligent person would shut down all government health programs as they have obviously failed. Unless the goal was to make everyone fat.

Perhaps at the root of it is glyphosate- check out Toxic Legacy by Dr Stephanie Seneff. It’s safe!, well, except that it’s kills bacteria, and we have a bunch of bacteria we rely on to be healthy. Whoops, or perfect if you sell pharmaceuticals.

The gaslighting of the American people is astounding- sort of like what they have done with the money. And we get to pay super high health insurance rates to pay for all the disease we have stricken ourselves with.

Arturo's avatar

The obvious problem is giving unfettered rein to appetites while socializing the health consequences...same arguments regarding motorcycle helmets and smoking bans....

UpdateProfile's avatar

Quick question for Dave: What is the difference between HFCS and sucrose? Both have roughly 1:1 Sucrose/Fructose content, so they appear to be nearly identical, the difference as I understand it being that one is dried juice from sugar cane, the other from corn. Sounds like basically the same stuff.

Whatsa differunce?

Steve Mudge's avatar

This reminds me of my wife's last teaching job where school lunches were provided as it was in a poorer part of Fort Worth. Her and other teachers took turns monitoring the dining hall. She was appalled at the amount of food waste---the schools would serve fruit and vegetables along with the main dishes but so many of those healthy (and expensive!) parts of the meal got tossed in the trash can. Many kids just chose the worst foods to eat. Not sure if the kids were pre-addicted to UPFs or if the children weren't really that poverty stricken and didn't appreciate healthy food but my wife remarked they should save the district some money and have the parents make the kids bring sack lunches--it might make both the parents and children focus on healthier food

TheFreedomArch's avatar

I really enjoyed your piece on this. From someone who has eaten healthy and has done their best to stay as fit and healthy as possible, it's harder than ever - When I travel for work, I have to spend a fortune at Whole Foods or equivalent just to not eat like crap for a week straight. It's really difficult and frustrating! Nice job

Tankster's avatar

Riffing Michael Pollan. Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants. Stay to the outside of the grocery store where the food is. The aisles are full of food-like products. The produce in the US is scandalously industrialized. A tomato from an Ontario hothouse in a Costco in Florida? AYFKM? The produce in Italy, Norway (presumably highly regulated by bureaucrats in Brussels and Paris) England, Ireland and Israel, just to name a few places I've been are far superior to anything in the US.